Comments on: 12 Reasons to Come Back to South Africa http://www.phuthu.co.za/2009/03/03/12-reasons-to-come-back-to-south-africa/ Stay Phut, Don't Go! We Love South Africa Wed, 08 Jun 2011 06:05:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Editor http://www.phuthu.co.za/2009/03/03/12-reasons-to-come-back-to-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-114 Editor Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:09:24 +0000 http://www.phuthu.co.za/?p=335#comment-114 Hi Joe, thanks for visiting Phuthu.co.za and making a comment. There will always be people leaving this beautiful country and we've come to realise that whatever decision is made, people will always justify their own decisions. You have left SA and made a new life in Oz, you believe in your decision and thats great - we're happy that you are happy. We believe in our decision in staying here and we're happy too. And as you yourself said, "racists are in every nation every colour every creed". It stands to reason then that racists even exist in Australia together with other established democracies. The fact is that there is no Lala Land - we all just need to find a place where we feel "at home". For you it may be Australia, for us its Africa.. Hi Joe, thanks for visiting Phuthu.co.za and making a comment.
There will always be people leaving this beautiful country and we’ve come to realise that whatever decision is made, people will always justify their own decisions. You have left SA and made a new life in Oz, you believe in your decision and thats great – we’re happy that you are happy. We believe in our decision in staying here and we’re happy too. And as you yourself said, “racists are in every nation every colour every creed”. It stands to reason then that racists even exist in Australia together with other established democracies. The fact is that there is no Lala Land – we all just need to find a place where we feel “at home”. For you it may be Australia, for us its Africa..

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By: Joe http://www.phuthu.co.za/2009/03/03/12-reasons-to-come-back-to-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-105 Joe Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:51:32 +0000 http://www.phuthu.co.za/?p=335#comment-105 Wow have you got it wrong. The one family for which the red tape creates the problem is not the norm. We live in Australia , in South Australia. Many South Africans are coming here because the state will sponsor migration and you than need fewer points to get in. Of the upwards of 50 families we are aware of moving here personally we are only aware of one that had to return. They did not comply with their visa requirements and in fact the local school community was upset that the government decided that they had to leave. However they basically just ignored the requirements and did everything they were not allowed to do. Stay Phut - For some people its not an option. I tried the BBEE even helped develop a company with a few like minded people. It did not work. That isnt to say staying isnt an option but in reality you are always being faced by a society divided by race. The assumption is always that black people cannot be racists well racists are in every nation every colour every creed. The rainbow nation seemed a great idea but in reality the divisions are just the same. The country is still divided. I have 4 daughters and as such have made a new life for us here in OZ. I miss my family and friends and have even grieved for what I lost when I left RSA but today I embrace what I have here. The community values the fact that teachers still see their jobs as a calling. That race very seldom is an issue. That people will help each other. This country (Australia) has given us a new beginning and as such I am thankful for that chance with all my heart. I am now through the hoop and look forward to my life here. Wow have you got it wrong.
The one family for which the red tape creates the problem is not the norm.

We live in Australia , in South Australia. Many South Africans are coming here because the state will sponsor migration and you than need fewer points to get in. Of the upwards of 50 families we are aware of moving here personally we are only aware of one that had to return. They did not comply with their visa requirements and in fact the local school community was upset that the government decided that they had to leave. However they basically just ignored the requirements and did everything they were not allowed to do.

Stay Phut – For some people its not an option. I tried the BBEE even helped develop a company with a few like minded people. It did not work. That isnt to say staying isnt an option but in reality you are always being faced by a society divided by race. The assumption is always that black people cannot be racists well racists are in every nation every colour every creed. The rainbow nation seemed a great idea but in reality the divisions are just the same. The country is still divided.

I have 4 daughters and as such have made a new life for us here in OZ.

I miss my family and friends and have even grieved for what I lost when I left RSA but today I embrace what I have here. The community values the fact that teachers still see their jobs as a calling. That race very seldom is an issue. That people will help each other.

This country (Australia) has given us a new beginning and as such I am thankful for that chance with all my heart.

I am now through the hoop and look forward to my life here.

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By: Editor http://www.phuthu.co.za/2009/03/03/12-reasons-to-come-back-to-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-75 Editor Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:12:39 +0000 http://www.phuthu.co.za/?p=335#comment-75 Hi Corinna Thank you for you heartfelt letter. What you say is quite true, however there is an intangible feeling about living in Africa. Africa is still a wild place, there is still a sense of adventure. I am sure there will be problems for long time to come but we all hope they will became less and less. We all hope that the serious problems (crime) are at their worst and things will only get better. There is a sense of energy here that cant be measured in terms of government benefits or low insurance premiums. It really depends on the individuals outlook, to some, safety and security is their priority in life and to others living life as an adventure is a priority. It must be nice to picnic anywhere just so long as you obey the multitude of rule signs! Bored teenagers overwhelmed with rules in "civilized " societies like Australia often rebel and turn to drugs, the drug statistics are scary, probably as scary as our crime statistics! I suppose people choose which problems they would rather deal with. I suppose the old saying of risk and reward holds true..........We here, also all look forward to the day we can switch off our electric fences. But in the mean time we just try and put the problems aside and enjoy living on the most vibrant continent on earth! Hi Corinna

Thank you for you heartfelt letter. What you say is quite true, however there is an intangible feeling about living in Africa. Africa is still a wild place, there is still a sense of adventure. I am sure there will be problems for long time to come but we all hope they will became less and less. We all hope that the serious problems (crime) are at their worst and things will only get better. There is a sense of energy here that cant be measured in terms of government benefits or low insurance premiums. It really depends on the individuals outlook, to some, safety and security is their priority in life and to others living life as an adventure is a priority. It must be nice to picnic anywhere just so long as you obey the multitude of rule signs! Bored teenagers overwhelmed with rules in “civilized ” societies like Australia often rebel and turn to drugs, the drug statistics are scary, probably as scary as our crime statistics! I suppose people choose which problems they would rather deal with. I suppose the old saying of risk and reward holds true……….We here, also all look forward to the day we can switch off our electric fences. But in the mean time we just try and put the problems aside and enjoy living on the most vibrant continent on earth!

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By: corinna http://www.phuthu.co.za/2009/03/03/12-reasons-to-come-back-to-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-74 corinna Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:54:53 +0000 http://www.phuthu.co.za/?p=335#comment-74 My dear darling Saffa, I love what you say and it is all true but the reality is we also like Australia as it provides safety, good government education,lovely walks and rides, no armed response, almost no hijacking, armed robbery,no electric fences, paying through our eyeballs for insurance, no BBBEEE, freedom to go when I want I jump in my car and do not think twice about who is standing outside my wall coming to ambush me or worse kill me. Government help for families and old people. The social safety net helps everybody which = less crime than SA, much less crime. Old ladies drive their buggy wheelchairs to the shops, I kid you not. Sound like paradise, well almost but not totally but it comes close. Australia is not perfect and yes there are drug problems here but no worse than anything I saw in SA, Naughty kids yes again but at least they do not join up with gangs to come and kill you. Normally a case of uncaring parents. Youngsters in V8 Holdens well I must say some of them do not impress me but I guess they are teenagers. My son has learnt to live again and not worry intensely about locking doors. he has become more loving, outgoing, responsive to teachers and sport and enjoys school. They are taught to work as a team and be part of the community. All about feel good. I switched from a private school in SA to a public school in Aus/ Am I regretting it? Not the slightest regret. Ok now the big question, will I go back to SA, I honestly hope so one day when I can walk outside in the street after a rainstorm and go for a picknick anywhere or go camping without being in an electric fenced camp. When I can remove my whole electric fence and armed reponse. When SA gets rid of BBBEEE and corruption improves, when government departments work, you see I am looking ahead when my son gets his id or goes for his drivers license I do not want him to come across all this incompetency and if he would like to learn a trade he can as there is a training centre in his town. South Africa I love you with all my heart and you have all I desire but please come to the party and I will be back. Until then... My dear darling Saffa,
I love what you say and it is all true but the reality is we also
like Australia as it provides safety, good government education,lovely walks and rides, no armed response, almost no hijacking, armed robbery,no electric fences, paying through our eyeballs for insurance, no BBBEEE, freedom to go when I want I jump in my car and do not think twice about who is standing outside my wall coming to ambush me or worse kill me. Government help for families and old people. The social safety net helps everybody which = less crime than SA, much less crime. Old ladies drive their buggy wheelchairs to the shops, I kid you not. Sound like paradise, well almost but not totally but it comes close.
Australia is not perfect and yes there are drug problems here but no worse than anything I saw in SA, Naughty kids yes again but at least they do not join up with gangs to come and kill you. Normally a case of uncaring parents. Youngsters in V8 Holdens well I must say some of them do not impress me but I guess they are teenagers. My son has learnt to live again and not worry intensely about locking doors. he has become more loving, outgoing, responsive to teachers and sport and enjoys school. They are taught to work as a team and be part of the community. All about feel good. I switched from a private school in SA to a public school in Aus/ Am I regretting it? Not the slightest regret.
Ok now the big question, will I go back to SA, I honestly hope so one day when I can walk outside in the street after a rainstorm and go for a picknick anywhere or go camping without being in an electric fenced camp. When I can remove my whole electric fence and armed reponse. When SA gets rid of BBBEEE and corruption improves, when government departments work, you see I am looking ahead when my son gets his id or goes for his drivers license I do not want him to come across all this incompetency and if he would like to learn a trade he can as there is a training centre in his town. South Africa I love you with all my heart and you have all I desire but please come to the party and I will be back. Until then…

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By: South Africans not welcome abroad | Phuthu.co.za http://www.phuthu.co.za/2009/03/03/12-reasons-to-come-back-to-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-72 South Africans not welcome abroad | Phuthu.co.za Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:54:43 +0000 http://www.phuthu.co.za/?p=335#comment-72 [...] I came accross this article on the internet and my first reaction was: Yes! Come back home! After reading the whole story though, I must admit that I actually feel very sorry for the families that made New Zealand or Australia their new home and are now being kicked out - they probably feel quite lost at the moment  - although they’re not allowed to stay, it doesn’t neccessarily mean that they are keen to come back. That’s where we come in, we’ll remind you of all the good things you’re coming back to! [...] [...] I came accross this article on the internet and my first reaction was: Yes! Come back home! After reading the whole story though, I must admit that I actually feel very sorry for the families that made New Zealand or Australia their new home and are now being kicked out – they probably feel quite lost at the moment  - although they’re not allowed to stay, it doesn’t neccessarily mean that they are keen to come back. That’s where we come in, we’ll remind you of all the good things you’re coming back to! [...]

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By: Greener Pastures - The truth as I know it | Phuthu.co.za http://www.phuthu.co.za/2009/03/03/12-reasons-to-come-back-to-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Greener Pastures - The truth as I know it | Phuthu.co.za Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:32:32 +0000 http://www.phuthu.co.za/?p=335#comment-3 [...] want for our children, we need to keep in mind that there is much more to a child’s life than riding his bike in complete safety, especially if he has to give up his friends, family, opportunities, sport and lifestyle for this [...] [...] want for our children, we need to keep in mind that there is much more to a child’s life than riding his bike in complete safety, especially if he has to give up his friends, family, opportunities, sport and lifestyle for this [...]

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